As you may know, I’ve been having off and on stomach cramps.
So I went to the gastro.
Gastro touched my stomach and said- “I’m pretty sure you have a hernia. We need to make sure the hernia isn’t blocking anything. Let’s go for a cat scan.”
Fine.
The scheduler set up the cat scan for the following week. At a location within the NYU hospital system (five minute walk from my house FYI), where all my Doctor’s are located, and all the info goes into a portal so that every Doctor I see can look at every single test and scan that I go for. As well as me having access to every single test and scan that I go for.
Sounds great, right?
That afternoon I get a call from my insurance:
Petty Functionary with a clipboard: I see you have a cat scan scheduled.
Me: Yes
Petty Functionary with a clipboard: Why?
Me: Because Doctor suspects a hernia and wants to make sure there isn’t anything serious causing my stomach cramps.
PFWAC: I see you’ve chosen XYZ radiology.
Me: Yes
PFWAC: You are aware that just because your Doctor said to use this facility, you have other options available.
Me: Is XYZ not in my network?
PFWAC: XYZ is in network, however there are other places
At this point, once you’ve told me that the location recommended is in my network and therefore already established as a provider by my insurance company, the conversation is pretty much over. But as I’m a good sport and you’ve tracked me down for a conversation, I’ll play along.
Me: If it’s in network, my Doctor recommends it, and it’s down the block from my house, why wouldn’t I choose it?
PFWAC: There are less expensive options.
Me: It’s in network. You are paying 80% plus the discount for going to an IN NETWORK FACILITY
PFWAC: There are places where you’ll pay less money.
Me: Have you been to any of these facilities?
PFWAC: No
Me: So you want me to trust my health to someplace where I need to read a YELP review, instead of trusting my Doctor, and the Labs associated with one of the largest hospitals in NYC?
PFWAC: It would save you money
At this point I really wanted to say: You know what would save money? Eliminating this ridiculous job of yours…If it was out of network, you call. But if it’s an approved, in network provider, your issue is with THEM not ME
Me: Can you give me the name and location of one of these facilities?
You can hear the excitement over the phone- the guy is salivating…
PFWAC: ABC Labs is only ten miles away…
Now- to someone who has a car and doesn’t live in an urban environment, this is a win. Ten miles by car is probably nothing. However, when you live in a city, and technically on an island, getting to a facility that is NOT ON YOUR ISLAND can be a bit of a bother. If I were to take mass transit, assuming mass transit is available, it could take me 90 minutes each way to get to this place. If I were to take a cab, it might still take an hour and be about fifty bucks. Each way. HMMMMM…is this saving me money? But I don’t say this out loud to the guy because he hasn’t really done his homework…
ME: are you paying for my transpotation and factoring in the time it will take me to get there and back. You know, as opposed to WALKING DOWN THE BLOCK?
PFWAC: No
Me: And how about the fee to get my results to my Doctors? Are you paying that? And, how about the timeliness of results? Is this lab going to get the results within HOURS? Or will I have to wait?
PFWAC: I can’t answer any of that.
And now I’m just a teensy bit bothered
Me: So basically, you want me to not go to a conveniently located lab recommended by my Doctor that is easy for me to get to and affiliated with the system that all my Doctors are in and approved as an in network provider by this insurance company, where the results will be put into my portal within hours garnering me and my team of Doctors immediate access to the results, and I’m able to get the tests done within a week, so if there’s really an issue we’ll know right away, and perhaps save my life?
PFWAC: I’m just saying it’s an option. But you’re approved for the Cat Scan…
FYI- they sent me one of those cute 1-5 survey things afterwards…
Firstly, sorry to hear about the cramps – I hope the cat scan gets to the bottom of the problem. Secondly, I was chuckling as I read my way down that sorry tale. Frustrating it clearly was, but really well told 😀 😀
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That seems like a very irritating phone call.
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Omg. And obviously, I can be quite righteous in certain situations
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But it may save you some money…..
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I was looking at the phone thinking omg this isn’t saving anything
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Good grief. Makes me glad to live in a country with universal healthcare; no calls like that!
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I did not know whether to laugh or cry at this. I’d truly enjoy reading the survey you submitted, though.
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Let’s just say…it was filled with a lot of 0’s…
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😉
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👍❤well deserved
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I’m sure you gave them a glowing review after that…
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I get the call if it’s out if network. But really…you’ve approved the provider…don’t approve them if they’re so egregious…😆
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As has been already noted; very glad to live in a country with universal healthcare.
Hope you’re feeling better, now.
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I’m sure they have great health insurance with that job too. 🙂
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😉my friends daughter is a resident. She said her daughter has worst healthcare ever
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Somehow I think the insurance company is more concerned with their savings since they’re covering 80%. I hope the doctors take care of your pain quickly.
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Thank you!!
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Well I just love EVERYTHING about your side of the conversation. Informed (and righteous) consumers make me so happy!
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I didn’t need more than a basic knowledge to know he had no leg to stand on
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Honestly, you seemed to have a lot more patience than I think I would have had! Oh my…most ridiculous phone call I’ve heard of in a while!
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I just wanted them not to call again
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You handled that well! Maybe you took up enough of the insurer’s time to make them put you on a “don’t bother calling her” list. I doubt it though. Honestly, like so much that is happening these day, it is better not to try to make sense out of the situation or try to convince the caller because the bottom line is simply IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE. I was getting ready for you to ask “Who’s on first?” but the caller wouldn’t have understood that either.🙃
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My friend says they randomly call every X number of cases…I hope my number doesn’t come up again…😆
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Hope all goes well!!!!
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So far so good!!
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When we’re already experiencing a little anxiety (some of us) about what’s going on within us and just want to get the test over and done with, why do we then need to put up with phone calls like this? 😡
I like how you handled it. 🙂
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I know! You’re at the specialist because you’re worried about your health. Don’t add to it
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Exactly.
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Well that is hilarious in its ridiculousness. Did you have fun with the survey? ChrisG
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You bet!!
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I have no words.
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😆
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Umm… and we wonder why the cost of healthcare is so high? What an utter waste of resources.
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Exactly!! And I get that they’re calling because they think it’s an unnecessary test. It’s ridiculous
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“Just doing my job ma’am.”
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Yup
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The spouse got that dire stomach crampy stuff after the booster shot, like a week or two after, and it seems to be inflammation messing with whatever stuff is already there in his case. Good luck to you–what a silly system sometimes.
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I know
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I’ve never heard them calling to save you money. Is this a new thing? How silly especially when they have no idea what they are really talking about.
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My guess it was to save them money,not me
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You’re probably right.
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Wow…what an idiot. A clueless idiot, I hope you gave them a 1.
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It was ridiculous
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Perfect post! You nailed it. Sorry for your ailments, but your account of the conversation made me laugh. Here’s to a speedy diagnosis and recovery!
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Thank you! It was too good not to share
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🙄 !!!
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What a mess
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Right?
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When did insurance companies start suggesting where to go if you are using a place in Network? VERY strange phone call.
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My guess is they thought this was an expensive and unnecessary test. As we know, she doctors are pverordering tests to both cover their asses and pad bills
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Petty pen pushers are the pits!
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You got that right
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Ugh. I would have hung up after 10 seconds.
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I missed you!! In this case, I needed to make sure they approved the cat scan….which was the underlying issue of this. As soon as he asked why I was having it, I knew this came down to them thinking it was unnecessary and wasteful
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Family emergency, so my mind has been elsewhere. Am trying to psych myself up for blogging again. Enjoying yours!
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Hoping things are better!!
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Thanks LA. Getting there.
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Oh gosh! I pray your CT scan goes well and tbat its a simple fix, nothing real serious!
Thanks for the laugh about the phone conversation! Shaking my head in disbelief at how ridiculous insurance companies can be! Did you take the time to fill out the survey? 😄
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Ct was ok. I do have a hernia but not causing issues. And yes..you bet I filled it out
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Glad it was OK, but so they don’t think the hernia is the source of your pain?
I figured you would fill it out. Good! Its all about them wanting to save money, nothing to do with caring about you!
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Exactly! Not source of cramping. I have my colonoscopy next week to rule out other things…😆
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Oh fun fun! 🙂
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I know!!😆
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Please tell me you were all, 0 stars. Do not recommend. 😂
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Oh…I crushed them
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That’s what I’m talking about! 🤘
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I agree about eliminating *his* job to save money, instead.
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That was my first thought
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Insurance companies are the reason we’re going to be stuck with a national health care plan some day, which will be worse, but it will be too late then to change it back. Stupid insurance companies!!!
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First off, hope you feel better and have a speedy recovery and secondly this job should definitely be eliminated. Then have the nerve too send a survey. No thanks!
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Thank you!!
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Its a nice post. Good
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I hear your frustration, praying you find out exactly what the problem is, and are “eligible” for the appropriate treatment. Our healthcare system is such a mess. Hoping you’re better soon LA, Hugs, C
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Colonoscopy on Wednesday…😆
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I’ll be thinking about you Wednesday night! 💕
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Tuesday* Obviously!
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