I came across this quote:
There’s only one rule. Follow the line of your own desires.”
Malcolm Bradberry
While I think that this has merit, I have problems with some of the intent. Should you always follow your path? What if a parent really wants to leave their family and join the circus. Do they really just wake up in the middle of the night, fill their bandana with worldly possessions, toss it on a stick, flip it on their back and just jump on the next freight train to the town with the tightrope and three rings?
Or do responsibly think about all the people that your life intersects with?
What is the line between personal growth and personal responsibility?
In my mind I want to tell people to “Go For It”…but there’s also this little part of me that thinks- “well…maybe you have to think how that’s going to effect __________. I guess much of my thinking would be persons who have others depend on them: If a single. childless 20 year old wants to move someplace and make woven belts, I’d be pushing them out the door with an order for a belt. If my best friend mother of three who brings in income and also helps out her parents decided to go weave belts, I’d probably sit them down and talk to them… I know it might not be fair, but when is life fair?
So, what do you think about this quote?
Do we follow our desires without regard? Or do we weigh all the exponents?
Discuss
There have been multiple times in my life when I would have packed a bad and driven to some place new to start a new life if I didn’t have kids. You can’t only follow your desires without regard for how it affects others.
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I agree with you. But it’s tough to think about people being truly miserable too…
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I love the quote but I have 4 kiddos relying on me so……….maybe later. 🙂
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See? That’s my thought too
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Ah if only. I think that’s a great quote for single people who are not responsible for the lives of others. From a personal point of view, I was a divorced mom by age 25. I tried to pursue my acting career. I got parts, but rarely got to see me child. I worked all day to support him, did theater at night and on weekends. I made a decision. His father split to go after his career. If I did that who would he have to teach him how to be a good human being? To feel loved? I made the responsible choice and never regretted it. He will be 48 this month. He’s an amazing man, husband, and father. He saw a mom who worked two jobs, supported him in his endeavors, and made sure he went to college snd followed his dreams. Sometimes that’s satisfying enough. I loved my teaching career and the fact that I chose to be a responsible parent paid off.
I think every person had to make choices. But, Children shouldn’t have to suffer for our choices. And they grow up. We have a lifetime to pursue our own happiness.
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You said it perfectly…children shouldn’t have to suffer for the choice of the parent.
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Yep! As a teacher I saw that happen too often. Children left in foster care, neglected, abused kids, all because of poor choices by their parents. To damage a child because of the selfishness of a parent is not only sad, but often times criminal.
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True
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Ahh yes. Responsibility is a heavy thing. I would love to follow my dream, but I CHOSE to have a family, so that is my first priority. My other desires come second, because I chose my children to come first.
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That’s how I feel to. Responsibility of being a parent is more than desire
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Maybe “but remember your responsibilities” should be added to the end.
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Good point
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We don’t know if our desires are just or even worth following. We need to follow God’s will (desire) for us.
Then someone might ask, “How do we know God’s desires?” One way would be through prayer. But to pray we have to acknowledge that there is a God who relates to us. Once we figure that out, there will be no desire to follow our own desires.
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That’s a good way to look at it..maybe they really aren’t worth following…
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We should think about the responsibilities we have before going for it, but there are plenty of people out there who just yeet off into the sunset to follow their dreams without giving it a second thought. Maybe it’s the right decision, maybe not. I have a feeling it’s not the right one more often than not…
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I agree. I think often it’s an escape instead of a passion to do something else
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I think it’s a great quote… if you read it when you’re 18. Maybe I will start putting it in graduation cards?
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Now that’s a good idea! I love that…at 18….
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Not if it’s at the expense of someone who relies on you. Sometimes we just have to wait for the right opportunity.
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Yeah…I agree…you have to weigh out everything
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Hmmmm. I would remove the word desire and replace it with heart. I believe following one’s heart includes both, intellect and intuition, which includes rationality and passion, and integrity, personal responsibility, and creating possibilities in life for the self, and others. In your example then, the mom of three would need to balance the belts and the kids….
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See…that’s ok…but they need to be included in the picture in some way
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What am I missing? Who needs to be included in the picture?
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If you have kids, you need to make sure you remember them if you’re making your passion happen. Weaving belts is fine. Packing up and expecting your kids will be resilient if you don’t see them ever…not so much
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Ooh, yes, you’ve hit the nail on the head!! It reminds me of a similar one along the lines of ‘Mankind (guess, I should say humanity, these days!) can never be truly free’ 😉
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That’s a good one! Because what cost freedom
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Exactly so 😉 If one person enjoyed absolute freedom then there’d be trouble 😉
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Anarchy
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Ah, I see, what you were pointing to, and now are writing….gotcha. Indeed, this is is true. When I included personal responsibility in my original comment, I was including the assumption that the kids would also be a top priority. However, upon reflection, I didn’t write that, and kind of glossed over that at the end, which, I think, is your point. Nice post and conversation, LA.
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How does following your desire exclude family? Didn’t the person desire to have them in their life? If you want something else that conflicts with your relationships, then you have to decide which is more important to you. That is still following your desire, not a ball and chain.
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Well, I think people don’t always think things through. I think people change their minds. And sometimes you don’t know what you want till later. It all depends on what your desire is, and at what cost pursuing it is
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Growing up with a mom who lived her life for herself and made stupid, careless decisions, I believe it’s important to think about your family and to not just selfishly think about what you want. I’m specifically talking about kids being the utmost importance. Great topic. 😉
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You have to think about it from many angles…
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Ahhh, from History Man! A book on my “to read” list from Bradbury simply because he writes of Howard, the sociologist teaching in the 70’s… clearly two of my most favorite things! While I believe the novel is a satire, it is interesting to contemplate that quote in a literal sense. Does personal self-interest and the resulting goals created trump responsibility??
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I’m divided too. So many women think they can only do one (child rearing) and not the other (self-fulfillment) – is it possible to do both? I think it’s about timing.
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I had a cool career. Then I quit and had a kid. I think you can do it all…just not at the same time. But that’s me.
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I think our society has forced women into that line of thinking historically and we still aren’t at a point to put aside those rules as men are able to do. It’s a great point, the dichotomy between what is acceptable for a man versus a woman. A debate that will rage on and on.
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Personally…I think it’s awful no matter what person chooses to not think about family…but yes…we still think of the woman as a shirker
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Oooh! I didn’t know it was a satire! I have a quite a day desk calendar and this quote came up, so I took it in the literal sense!! Ahhhh…adds so much dimension to it….but when I think of all the people who think only of themselves….what’s more important…personal self interest or personal responsibility? How do we separate
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Claudette brought up a great point on social views and norms between men/women. This is a topic that can be discussed over and over and made up so much of my research. So much fun to ponder different viewpoints!
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I know. It’s totally worth a blog….
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It’s kind of a loaded question, isn’t it? So much depends no timing…
I’m not one to subject my views here now because I’m at a crossroad… Also, I need to find a bandana big enough to fit in all my supplies. (Ha.)
I don’t know what to say. But the comments are enlightening.
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Well, you know I’m a big believer in waiting to have kids till you’re in your thirties, so you can explore your passions and decide if parenthood is one of your desires…but yes…timing is everything.
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I find that quote irresponsible. There are people who take such quotes very seriously, and may make stupid decisions. At a young age you have to think of doing something which will settle your future. As a parent you have to think of your kids. Maybe that quote is for a person who has earned enough not to be dependent, and who has no one to take care of.
And then there’s that person who is abused in some way. If so, by all means get out and do what your heart tells you to. But don’t endanger your children!
Do I make sense?
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Totally make sense. I’ll give someone young a space to find themselves. Let them explore options and such. But at some point, I think you need to think about those around you
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Who is MALCOLM BRADBERRY? I need to know that first before I determine if his advice is sound. He sounds rather selfish on the surface of it.
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To preface…I read this comment on my quote a day calendar and thought it was interesting. Deb said they are a historian and write satire…which I did not know. However…as I know plenty of selfish people who sort of follow this rule…I think it’s interesting to take it literally
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Ally, English novelist, wrote a lot of satirical social commentary in the 60’s/70’s.
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Thanks. Never heard of him before. Now it all makes more sense.
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You answered the question and I agree with you. We have a responsibility to those who are dependent on us. But I love your hilarious example of making woven belts. I’d be more likely to pack a back pack and head off to become a thru-hiker, trail trash/ not-really-homeless person who spends the days moving through woods and mountains and the nights sleeping on the ground surrounded by fellow hikers in huts. These hikers are so interesting to me, especially the ways they find to pay for those months on the trail.
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Completely understand that allure! It’s fun to think about living a life that’s different from the one you currently live
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Given that I believe Trump must have had this tattooed on his arm as a constant reminder that someone wrote this remark just for him. and having seen what following it so slavishly can accomplish. I’ve decided it’s not for me nor for anyone else in the least attached to another human being they have feelings for.
Hugs
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I don’t have time to read all 55 previous comments today so if I’m repeating someone else’s thoughts I’m sorry. I think we have to factor in that at some point the person’s “desire” was to “have a house and raise a family.” (Yes, there are accidental pregnancies but for purposes of discussion, let’s say the kids were planned). Yes, your “desires” can change but you have to consider how those desires will affect others. No one’s saying you can’t join the circus after the kids are grown.
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Excellent point. You can follow your dreams…you just have to watch timing
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Only considering ourselves seems like a dangerous and lonely path to me. 🤷♀️
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Agreed
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I know two people who follow their own desires exclusively. I call them selfish. On the other hand, my daughter is thinking of moving once again and following a dream of writing comedy. We told her to go for it. My husband said, “Now is the time to do that in your early 20s.” FYI, she has a job that she can relocate and do the comedy writing classes after work.
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Your daughter doesn’t owe anyone anything. Go for it and see what happens. But yeah…I think weve all seen selfish adults who keep looking for that elusive something
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Well, it’s a nice quote, but it’s not for me and my personality. I’m the responsible one, always. Would I like to grab my bandana, chock it full of fun and run off for a week? Heck yes. But that’s probably only in my imagination since the kids are depending on me. There was only one year that I lived for myself, away at college in another country. I had freedom then and I loved it.
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Youth is an excellent time to explore. I would tell anyone young to go for it!
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Me too! 🙂
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This quote personifies the Me Generation & it makes me very sad.
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Agreed
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Both! There is a time and place, right? Couldn’t imagine making a change that effects my family without planning and consideration.
Great food for thought🌺
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Thanks!!
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I agree with the quote. It doesn’t say, “without regards to anyone else.” It just says, “Follow the line of your own desires,” for which there is always a way to do.
Now, can you do that without making others angry? Nope. But you can do it.
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Well stated as always. Do we owe anyone?
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We don’t owe anyone anything. I think this is why people sometimes don’t do what they want…the guilt of owing someone something.
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I fear a world where people just do what they want though.
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lol I hope for that world, but I will say it may be lot less scarier if we all worked on being mentally healthy versions of ourselves. Then we could trust that what everyone is doing is not harmful.
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Good point. But I don’t think we will ever get there because people are in denial about their mental health
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That is the truth.
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That quote would resonate more if the last word was responsibly.
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True…
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A great good thought provoking post. I married my high school sweetheart against my parents wishes. I really hurt them but believed and still believe I did the right thing. We had some good times and some bad times. But we had our son and accomplished much before he died 11 years ago. I didn’t leave my responsibilities and married who I wanted finally with my parent’s blessing.
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I think the young definitely have latitude with exploration. You had a good life…priceless…
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Thank you. I learned a lot because of the bad times and treasured even more the good times.
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Nothing is easy…but we get through
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The quote seems selfish and irresponsible to me.
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I thought it was a bit odd…
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You can’t always sacrifice for your family, otherwise you will resent them. I think you ought to do what you want to do, start small anyway.
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Good point
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A friend shared a couple of quotation memes the other day. One said: “The difference between a good day and a bad day is your attitude.” The other said the same, except “your attitude” was struck out & handwritten alongside it were the words: “a lot more complex than some sanctimonious quote on the internet. ”
Both are correct, both could apply to you, both could be what you need to see at any one time. Pretty much like every self-development type quotation out there.
Ally asked about the author. I suspect if the compilers of the calendar knew the answer to her question, they’d not have included it. The devil is in the detail as they say.
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Yup. Your last paragraph…exactly, and oddly I’m going to touch on everything you said in my post tomorrow…great minds…
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😀 I look forward to it!
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That seems like a rather selfish and narcissistic (“trumpian”) way to live. Life confers on us some responsibility to care for others and to care for the planet hosting us—even if we may sometimes be inconvenienced or denied our every desire. I much prefer Kurt Vonnegut’s “one rule,” as stated in his welcome to newborns: “There’s only one rule that I know of, babies, God damn it, you’ve got to be kind.”
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Well, as long as we all continue buying things made in places that don’t have rules regarding the environment or anything else, we are all complicit. I’m pretty sure both trumpians and non are pretty narcissistic
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If your single then go for it. But if you aren’t then slow your horses
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Yup
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I agree with you. Life is not fair, and I’d talk to the mother before sending her off to weave those belts. 🤷🏽♀️
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That’s what I think…is it worth it? What’s the cost?
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If following your “desire” created a child then that becomes your leading desire but not your only one. It seems we create a lot of your own trouble by prioritizing desire over our responsibilities. C
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As usual, this post really covers the comment I made on your previous post. So uncanny how you do that for me!
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We are soulmates of the mind
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I believe we need to weigh all the components and follow our desires. Think about your choices, see if your life matches up with your desires. If not see how your desires can fit in regards Tony others or situations and revaluate. Try your best. There is always opportunity.
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